Notes from 22/23 April vtc

Present:

TFRI: Hen-biau King, Chau-Chin Lin: Visiting Tim Kratz, Paul Hanson, Tim Meinke

Academia Sinica: Alan Lai

NCHC: Fang-Pang Lin, Hsui-Mei Chou, Julian Chen, Grace Hong, Stephen Chen, Jazz Wang

NTL: Jim Rusak

Wisconsin Limnology: Dave Balsiger

San Diego: Peter Arzberger, Longjiang Ding

Next Meeting:

7 May morning Taiwan: 0800

6 May evening US: 1700 San Diego 1900 Wisconsin

Tentative Agenda for next meeting:

• Review Stability of system
• Report on “organization” going forward: Science, Architecture
• Updates from any subgroup meetings
• Calendars (when will people be meeting – see below – so we can plan activities around those events)
• Updates on discussions of other groups (e.g. NZ, AU)
• Plans for publications or other early products?

1. Report on buoy deployment at YYL (Paul, Tim M., Alan, Julian) and deployment of wireless connections

Buoy in water – capturing dissolved oxygen, thermister, meteorological data

One piece failed (Thermister chain) but used a spare line from Wisconsin at YYL.

YYL has several similar characteristics to Trout Bog,

High chlorophyll , acid, high dissolved organic carbon

NCHC to Field Station: pc – call regularly to field station, and can access either meteorology station or to buoy.

Field Station to met tower: Used Yagi directional antenna

Met Tower to buoy: Freewave radio used

Longjiang redid aspects of interface to get data to be seen on web or downloadable.

Overall, this was a real team effort, and every one helped to make this work (e.g. TFRI, NCHC, AS, Wisconsin, San Diego-remotely)

2. Discussion of next steps for information flow/handling to move from level 0 to next levels (Peter, Longjiang, Hsui-Mei, Barbara)
1. Process to create a plan with milestones
2. what needs to be improved?
3. what are our priorities in this area?

Peter was at NSF on 21 April (see slides on web site, under presentations) Notion of project well received at NSF – the theme of NEON Enabling or NEON prototype was well received.

There are many ways we can go:

1. DATA and Interfaces: Sensors, to data integration, to data display to data mining, to pipelines
2. SENSOR: Work with manufacturing

Team to look at current infrastructure, long-term architecture, gaps between current infrastructure and long term architecture, and priorities / opportunities to be looked at by one team: Barbara, Dave, San Diego, NCHC, TFRI. Should try to have meeting of this group prior to next vtc.

Considerations for proposal:

Biological Database program: deadline 12 July 2004

LTER, Sensor and sensor net, NEON (environmental applications) - Prototype (Henry Gholz, Liz Blood)

Go to two-way communications – (way to enhance the proposals for controlling instruments): Tim – need to develop software to deliver commands to buoy to change sampling rates … (Link with other grid systems)

3. Discussion on expanding project (Peter, Hen-Biau, Tim K.)

Ways to expand

• Make architecture more robust
• Bring in more partners

Process:

Need to create Subgroups (Science and Information/ Architecture), identify leaders of subgroup, and begin discussions. For example, with Information Management need to talk about how to make system more robust, expandable, and more persistent.

Potential Partners:

Australia, New Zealand: 27/26 April Tim, Paul, and Peter will have vtc with researchers in Western Australia and Waikato, New Zealand

4. Discussion of Matt’s summer project at YYL (Tim K. and others)
1. Science
2. Logistics
3. Timing

Science:

Matt Van de Bogert will look at plankton, chemical matters, lake metabolism as part of his research.

Jim Rusak is expert in plankton ecology, will be involved in studying aspects of YYL.

Need to work with Alan and Charles about science projects of interest in Taiwan, perhaps other researchers as well.

Logistics and Timing:

Tim and Matt will travel to Taiwan to first week of July. Tim stays one week, Matt stays 5 to 6 weeks.

Need to determine what equipment to bring, what can be used.

Matt to stay at Fushan, 2 hour drive to YYL (and will stay there several days a week).

(Note: in subsequent discussions between Charles and Tim it was suggested that another alternative would be for Matt to be based at AS in Taipei. There is housing available and Charles would host Matt in his lab. Perhaps part of Matt’s time can be spent at Fushan and part at AS. That way he could experience both.)

5. Web site update (Dave)

More slides, pictures, … on site:

Name to be determined soon, but both www.lakemetabolism.org and lakemetabolism.org have been reserved. Waiting for final approval from U Wisconsin administration to host such a site on a “wisc.edu” machine.

On Monday 26 April 2004 Dave will send content to Hsui-Mei, who will begin working on Chinese version.

Will need input from TFRI on technical terms and content on material about YYL. Also will need to have some of the literature translated into English.

6. Next Meeting

7 May morning Taiwan: 0800

6 May evening US: 1700 San Diego 1900 Wisconsin

7. Other

BIOSCIENCES ARTICLE: A version of the manuscript will be sent out in a couple of days from John Porter, with a deadline of response about 7 May. People to get this are Tim Kratz, Paul Hanson, Fang-Pang Lin and Hen-biau King.

July 20: Washington DC: This is date of annual NSF/NSC meeting. Bill Chang wanted people to reserve this date. This included Tim Kratz, Hen-biau King, Fang-Pang Lin and Whey-Fone Tsai, Peter Arzberger. More information will likely be coming about this.

Calendar (added after event):

16 – 18 May 2004: Peter and Fang-Pang in PRAGMA 6 (Beijing)

8-9 June 2004: Peter in Australia (possible meeting?)

13 – 16 June: Tim at San Diego

20 July: NSF/NSC meeting: Hen-biau, Tim, Fang-Pang, Peter

15 – 17 September: Fang-Pang, Peter, Longjiang at PRAGMA 7 in San Diego. Tim/Paul invited. Can meet with Hans-Werner Braun to compare wireless architectures, Chaitan Baru and Phil Papadopoulos for data/compute architectures, Tony for sensor architectures

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