Summary of YYL/NTL/UCSD meeting

1 / 2 June 2005

 

Present:

TFRI: Hen-biau King, Chau-Chin Lin, Bill Chang

NCHC: Fang-Pang Lin, Julian Chen, Hsui-mei Chiu, Grace Shau-Wei Hong

AS: Stonn

TLS: Tim Kratz, Tim Meinke, Brian Cotter, Joel Kenny, Stuart Jones, Luke Winslow

UW Limnology: Paul Hanson, Barbara Benson, Owen Langman, Dave Balsiger, Others ????

 

Next meeting (tentative date/time):

·        Taiwan: 22 June 2005. 8:30 am

·        US: 21 June 2005

o       San Diego: 5:30 pm

o       Wisconsin: 7:30 pm

o       Washington DC: 8:30 pm

·        QUESTION: Will UCSD or NCHC drive next MCU (See Arzberger doctrine below)

 

Tentative Agenda for 22/21 June meeting:

·        YYL Infrastructure

o       Review Progress on YYL Infrastructure

·        Wireless,

·        Functioning of sensors

o       Review data that have been collected since January 2005

o       Determine what materials should be ready / brought for the visit by Kratz in early July

·        Update: Plans for long-term maintenance of YYL

·        Review outline / coordination of talks for NSC/NSF

·        Other topics

o       RCN proposal

o       NCR presentation

o       Other

 

Assignments:

  • YYL Infrastructure:
    • Continue to work on wireless network solutions for stability.
    • Continue to explore the sensor issue
  • Coordination of NSC/NSF meeting
    • Peter to draft possible script – and circulate (see Appendix 2)
  • Circulation of other documents (by Peter)
    • GLEON Prospectus (for funding of fte)
    • National Research Council presentation (23 June)

 

Update:

 

A solution to improve the persistence of the wireless signal at YYL has been found. In discussions with National Dong-Hua University (www.ndhu.edu.tw).

  • .  This would provide a very good place for a rely, and it has power there! The researchers from this institution also frequent the lake often (weekly)
    • Note – Julian also consulted with Hans-Werner Braun about this issue. [I hope that was valuable.]
  • Issue of sensor not resolved. Sounds like some have failed.

 

Appendix 1:

 

Arzberger Doctrine

for Keeping Conference Schedule

using VTC/MCU to do conferencing

 

  1. All parties give IP address to site that will host MCU
  2. That site tests all IP address (collectively) and the system in the 12 hours prior to the meeting.
  3. If at the time one site cannot be connected, we wait five minutes for that site to reboot.
  4. At that point, that site will need to call in. [MCU unit in UCSD has call-in capability. Is this true in NCHC?]
  5. Thus, each site should have a back-up phone (skype is last resort) and pictures of the people they are not seeing. J

 

 

Appendix 2:

 

NSC/NSF meeting

Possible Script

8 July 2005

 

Participants:

From Grid / Lakes / Coral Reef / Undergraduate Education:

 

Taiwan:

·        Hen-biau King, Director, TFRI

·        Whey-Fone Tsai, Deputy Director, NCHC

·        Fang-Pang Lin, Head Grid Applications, NCHC

·        Kwang-Tsao Shao, Director, Research Center for Biodiversity, AS

 

USA:

·        Tim Kratz, Director, Trout Lake Station, U Wisconsin

·        Gabriele Wienhausen, Provost, Sixth College, UCSD

·        Peter Arzberger, Chair, PRAGMA, Director, Life Sciences Initiatives, UCSD

 

Total Time (Not sure whether this includes Dr. K.T. Shao): 1.5 hours for presentations

 

Key Points in combined presentation:

  • New material with new results (since most of us have been there before)
  • Collaboration is
    • Multifaceted
    • Leverage various strengths
    • Critical to progress
  • Infrastructure needs to be persistent for e-science

 

Possible Ordering:

 

Whey-Fone Tsai: NCHC, TAWREN, and International Collaboration

Peter Arzberger: PRAGMA: Model for International Collaboration; Underpinning of PRIME and Lake Metabolism (GLEON?) and Team Science

Hen-Biau King: Taiwan Ecological Research Network, Collaborative and IT efforts, ITLER

Fang-Pang Lin: EcoGrid – Developing new technologies to increase the capacity for environmental research; Telescience/EcoGrid in PRAGMA; Global Coral Reefs ?

Tim Kratz: Lake Metabolism – new understanding from global observing

Kwang-Tsao Shao: Coral Reefs research

Gabriele Wienhausen: Pacific Rim Undergraduate Experiences (PRIME) and Sixth College (Science, Technology, Culture)

 

NOTE: I attempted to alternate funding source of the speakers. 

 

Alternative Ordering: Put PRIME right after PRAGMA

 

 

Key Points (these are suggestions for discussion – most of this can be thrown out):

 

Whey-Fone Tsai: NCHC, TAWREN, and International Collaboration

  • NCHC mission / Vision for future in Taiwan
  • Key Projects (TWREN)
  • Key Application Groups
  • Key Grid Projects
  • Key accomplishments
  • International Collaborations
    • Value to NCHC for involvement in these efforts (and in PRAGMA)
  • PRIME Students (?)

Peter Arzberger: PRAGMA: Model for International Collaboration; Underpinning of PRIME and Lake Metabolism (GLEON?) and Team Science

  • Background and History of PRAGMA
  • Context of e-science – vision for future of e-science and PRAGMA
    • Points: Collaboration, Education, Application, Technology, Infrastructure
    • Need for persistent infrastructure
  • Key accomplishments 2004/5
    • Highlight NCHC role
    • Fang-Pang as Deputy Chair
  • Routine Use Testbed
  • Key Spin-off projects / activities (the value of an organization like PRAGMA)
    • Software Integration Project
    • PRIME – Gabriele Wienhausen and Fang-Pang to talk about this
    • Lake Metabolism (Bioscience Article – but someone else can use this) – Tim to talk about this
    • GLEON  - Tim / Fang-Pang or Peter could talk about this (but may make sense after the science (Tim) and ecogrid (Fang-Pang)
    • Coral Reefs – Fang-Pang and KT Shao to talk about this
    • PIRE – and optiputer experiments (and Team Science – use picture in T. Hey article and in PIRE proposal
    • RCN  - Tim to talk about this

Hen-Biau King: Taiwan Ecological Research Network, Collaborative and IT efforts, ITLER

  • TERN
  • Dream of Major Eco-synthesis center
  • Role of Taiwan in ILTER activity
  • IT and interactions with NCHC / other groups
  • Need for persistent infrastructure

Fang-Pang Lin: EcoGrid – Developing new technologies to increase the capacity for environmental research; Telescience/EcoGrid in PRAGMA; Global Coral Reefs ?

  • Ecogrid – Vision of technology and geography
  • Key accomplishments / users
  • Plans for Coral Reef technology and challenges
  • PRIME students
  • iGRID2005 and SC05

Tim Kratz: Lake Metabolism – new understanding from global observing

  • Science of Lake Metabolism
  • Collaboration internationally (in context of LTER and NTL)
    • What is important about the international collaboration
  • GLEON and RCN
  • PRIME – student

Kwang-Tsao Shao: Coral Reefs research

  • Science of Coral Reef
  • Specific Activities in Taiwan
  • IT issues and value of collaboration

Gabriele Wienhausen: Pacific Rim Undergraduate Experiences (PRIME) and Sixth College (Science, Technology, Culture)

  • History of Sixth College
  • History of PRIME
  • Our students this year (overall)
    • Assuming Fang-Pang will talk about
  • Cultural Competency
  • Plans for future
  • Invite exchange to UCSD (?) and value to UCSD